Karate Kata Which karate kata have been least altered?
Hello,
Today I'd like to ask which style of Karate has the least altered kata; like for instance, the kata of shotokan and kyokushin have been HEAVILY altered. So have the kata of Shito ryu, and fatelfully wado ryu. I've heard Anko Itosu had his time of changing the kata and removing the most deadly stuff. But I don't know much about the kata of Goju ryu, Uechi ryu and Shorin ryu. How much have they been changed and how much have the deadliest techniques been removed. Like the kyusho and tuite applications. I heard from someone that Shorin ryu has the most pressure point attacks in their kata, and that Goju ryu has the most grappling and throwing techniques. Is it true? Also, could someone please tell me which which kata are the most preserved?
Thanks!
Oss.
You're certainly on the right track... just a couple of adjustments.
Up to the time when Hohan Soken passed away, the Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu had the oldest and untainted kata within the Shorin System. Soken Sensei left Okinawa before the conversion of "jutsu" to "do". When he returned, he saw the huge difference and was told about the change. He refused to comply, because he was just a Badass who no one would dare mess with. LOL! After his passing, most of the students scurried to have their own identity within the style. They changed a lot of the style and claim that Soken Sensei taught them the secrets. They're all full of it-shay.
There are only a couple left who received the real teaching and one of the passed away a few years ago. His name was Kosei Nishihira. He was an outstanding practitioner who not many in the karate world even heard of. Their is one who is posted on a video on Youtube who has not been identified, who when you see his performance, how smoothe, and the use of his body, you can tell this man is the real deal. I believe he is the nephew of Soken Sensei as I found out that he did have a nephew surnamed Nishihara.Here is a video of him -
The other older Shorin Ryu schools, or schools that returned to the old ways are Kishaba Juku, Kyudokan.
As far as Shorin Ryu having the most PP attacks, really, all three Village Arts - Tomari, Shuri and Naha are endowed with Kyusho, Grappling and Throwing technique. Learning the locations of the points and the sciences behind their effectiveness is key to finding what technique within the kata attacks what point.
The Motobu family - Choki Motobu, are the last Royal Family of Okinawa, descendants of the Sho Kings. Choki Motobu was a Prince and his son is still considered a Prince by the Older Okinawans today. They had their own art called Palace Hand - Udundi. This art was taught to one outsider named Seikichi Uehara, who was one of Okinawas most extraordinary Masters. I personally don't know how much of the complete art he received but he taught a few people before he passed away at the age of 100, still an active practitioner and teacher, living as a person more like in his 50's.
As far as being unchanged is concerned, I believe the least unchanged is Uechi Ryu. Kambun Uechi learned 3 kata from a Chinese man named Chou Tzu Hou. He began teaching them to his son Kanei Uechi. It was known as Pangainoon, its Chinese name. After Kambun's death, his son named it Uechi Ryu. Some of the Master's older students did not follow the son, continued teaching only the three kata and kept the original name of the art. I do not follow this arts history too much but I heard that it also had its own version of Suparinpai kata.
There are some forms within the Okinawa systems called "Hakutsuru". The history of these forms seems to be shrouded in mystery and their origins inconclusive.
I have seen real Chinese White Crane and none of these "Hakutsuru"(means White Crane) kata have much in common with the Chinese Art. There are some who adapted forms like Happoren(Ba Bu Lien in Chinese) but you can tell that it is not like any of the Hakutsuru forms either.
All the kata have been altered some how.
In Goju Ryu, Miyagi Sensei himself did some altering but if you want to know which is the closest to the oldest version, I would say that it is Ken Shi Kai's headed by Hokama Tetsuhiro. He is the most knowledgeable and best taught Master of Goju Ryu today.
This excellent work, with more than 800 photos for ease of use, is designed to help students get the most out of the study and training of the five essential Pi Nan kata. Tomiyama Sensei, one of the leading Shito Ryu instructors in the world, not only demonstrates the katas, advising on performance and underlying principles, but also brings together sets of "bunkai" (applications) to aid understanding of the content. It is through the practice of Pi Nan katas and the many and varied applications that practitioners at all levels get a solid foundation for a meaningful study of the art of Karate. This comprehensive work is an indispensable tool for students and teachers alike.
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What is the bunkai (or practical application) of the Sepai Kata in Goju Karate?
I asked this once a long time ago and only one person had any help. I was hoping now others may know.
Also what are Goju's origin's?
I have been to www.gojuryu.net
Yes I believe it was you. thanks!! I need a few more references.=]
goju ryu founded by chojun miyagi from the nahe te system taught by kanryo higaonna which miyagi renamed goju ryu in 1929.He changed the name based on a phrase in the BUBISHI the bible of karate.Inhaling is soft or ju exhaling is hard or go .The technique also works on this principle soft defense hard offense.It also exemplifies the ying yang duality of human nature .It is a derivative of fujian white crane kung fu (south china)
A detailed bunkai of sepai .Do you mean move by move ?If so there isn't enough room here to do that .Do you do that kata ? IF SO DROP ME AN EMAIL .
I was just wondering would Kata Gatame be considered a "neck crank" if it is used to submit your opponent? Because im aware neck cranks are allowed in Brazillian Jiu Jitsu, but they are forbidden in Judo...any thoughts?
Cheers
If you do it correctly, it's a choke (and pin), you're putting the same pressure in the same places as that sankaku jime (triangle choke). Look at the position of the uke in both positions, it's exactly the same.
If you have it , but not quite getting a choke I'm sure you can pull in on their neck and lean into them to crank it, but it's not designed that way.
Judo Nage-no-Kata teaches the reader throwing techniques with detailed descriptions and photos. This book is aimed at providing the newcomer as well as the Kata club instructor with up-to-date lessons for use on the mat without any other preparation.
Judo Nage-no-Kata teaches the reader throwing techniques with detailed descriptions and photos. This book is aimed at providing the newcomer as well as the Kata club instructor with up-to-date lessons for use on the mat without any other preparation.
This book describes the history and importance of Ju No Kata-the science of what it takes to execute throws-to the study and practice of judo. It also serves as a semi autobiography of the author, Keiko Fukuda, who is the world`s foremost authority on Ju No Kata. At the age of 90, she still practices her passion. Understanding Ju No Kata is essential for passing higher-rank tests and this book, imbued with Fukuda`s wisdom, is comprehensive and definitive.
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What Martial Arts Ranking Systems Really Mean
The first martial arts ranking systems in the martial arts were created by Jigoro Kano. He apparently picked up the idea from a ranking system used in swimming, and applied it to judo.
In the beginning there were but two belts, white and black, and truth, they didn't even use belts. Students wore either white gi or black gi.
Eventually judo got its act together and began using actual belts, creating a higher standard of judo black belt ranks, and the practice spread to Karate.
The original idea behind belt rankings is found in the words kyu, which means ‘boy,' and which was used to describe white belts, and dan, which means ‘man,' and which was used to describe a shodan black belt.
Possibly because of the zen nature of Japan, the kyu and dan ranking a system came to indicate a ‘statement of maturity,' which was manifest as a calmness of mind in the practitioner.
In the Karate belt order, possibly to better match the number of kata taught, and to make the teaching easier by separating the classes by rank, the brown belt rank was introduced. The Heian forms could be taught up to Brown Belt, intermediate kata were taught to brown belts, and expert forms (black belt kata) were taught to Black Belts.
As the size of classes grew larger, more ranks were needed.
A white belt is a beginner, a green belt is intermediate, a brown belt is advanced, a black belt is expert, and a fourth black belt is a master.
This expansion of ranks made teaching easier, and with viral expansion of karate across the planet, other martial arts started using ranks, and more belts came into vogue. The colors were originally based on white, green, brown and black, and further defined by tips on the belts, or stripes running the length of the belts. Eventually, Ed Parker, of American Kenpo fame, introduced the spectrum of color scheme, which was used to goal motivate and as a selling gimmick.
Here is how the karate belt colors were arranged some forty years ago
white
orange
purple
blue
green
brown (three degrees)
black (eight degrees)
The Parker kenpo ranking system ultimately became the standard for ranking systems, and though there have been more changes, this standard is fairly well adhered to.
Further changes include yellow belts for children, red belts for masters (though a red belt in some systems is sometimes used in place of or to augment brown belt ranking), different degrees of black belt, and so on.
That belt ranking is of significant importance is obvious, but there is an abuse built into the system.
Instead of goal motivation, some people turn into ‘symbol collectors,' and a black belt is just a symbol, and thus the spiritual maturity aimed at in the original ranking method is put aside.
And, in the interests of selling martial arts, some schools have too many belts, and have become ‘material heavy,' thus elongating the time necessary for accomplishment.
These problems aside, ranking systems do encourage practitioners, they do make teaching easier and more efficient, and even if some people are only graded on surface skill, the matrix is in place for ranking students in a more spiritual realm, which would be described as increased depth of personality.
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Karate Kumite Need an opinion about choosing between Karate or Kick-box?
I did practice Karakate Shotokan, Kickbox and a little of Wing Chun.So i can say i made an idea about them.My opinion are that:
1-Karate Shotokan-I appreciate the most because it is more in the traditional and it gives me a feeling of balance.But i dont know the fighting stance give me some doubt.
2-Kick-box-I think its quite good and quite useful even in real life you have many varieties of combination you can use.
3-Wing Chun-I don't have too many knowledge on this one but i know it doesn't fit for me because my length is 1:86 and my weight is: 84 so i don't feel very good in Kung-fu.
My question is:
Do you think i should continue with Kick-box or that i should continue with Karate-Shotokan
And smth else,do you think that in a fighting mach(kumite in karate) witch is better,what about in real-life experience?
Thanks in advance for your time.
Shotokan Karate:D:D
Yesterday I gained my black belt after eight years training. It was truely the best feeling in the world and it looks amazing when you apply for any type of job. You learn the stances in nooooo time and you're right, the traditional side is one of a kind. Your doing shotokan and thats that!
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This introduction to sport competition teaches you in detail how to use your potential and your technical skills to defeat your opponents in Karate competition. Master Miyake shows hundred of basic, intermediate, and advanced sparring combinations used by the great karate champions in the sport. This is the perfect guide to understand offensive and defensive tactics as used in elite competition, making it the most authoritative handbook of its kind about the subject of Kumite. This book is for all students attempting to bridge the gap between Karate basics and winning tournament competition. It is heavily illustrated with sequential photographs of Miyake Sensei in action.
As well as setting forth the basic rules that must be put into practice when performing kata or applying techniques in kumite, this volume pinpoints the underlying physical and physiological principles of karate: source and concentration of power; stance,
Hirokazu Kanazawa is the renowned karate master in the world today, and a close disciple of Gichin Funakoshi, the father of modern karate and founder of the Shotokan School. Having earned his impressive reputation in Hawaii, the mainland United States, and Europe as an official trainer for the Japan Karate Association, Kanazawa founded Shotokan Karate-do International Federation in 1979. This association now has branches in more than 90 countries throughout the world. This book is Kanazawa`s first complete guide to kumite, or sparring. The karate training process comprises four areas: basics, kata (forms; prearranged movements and techniques), kumite, and competition. Kumite-"the art of grappling with opponents," as it might be called-is the application of kata, and is the key to success in karate tournaments. Karate Fighting Techniques teaches all the various kumite techniques, and presents a systematic approach to applied kumite that is designed to provide essnetial information for match-style kumite and tournament kumite. The author also writes with great affection of his experiences with Master Gichin Funakoshi, and offers some insight into the true spirit and teachings of Shotokan karate. With 700 photos of the author, his students, and some rare photos of the late Gichin Funakoshi and his famous disciple Masatoshi Nakayama (author of the popular Best Karate series), Karate Fighting Techniques is the first book of its kind to provide such a comprehensive guide to kumite and its role in Shotokan karate. It will be an indispensable resource for all karate practitioners.
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Dudley Has One Of The Best Karate Clubs
If you are a resident of Dudley and an aspiring Karate learner or a Parent, there are several option available. There are numerous well established Karate classes in Dudley where you or your kid can learn Karate. Following are some of the salient features of Karate classes at Dudley: The karate classes at Dudely specialize in both hobby karate and competitive karate. For competitive karate enthusiasts the karate club at Dudley regularly holds the Kata lessons (meaning the forms or patterns of moves) and Kumite lesson (meaning the sparring).
The karate classes at Dudley have certified instructors who are fully insured and cleared by CRB (Criminal record board) to work with children. Most of Karate classes at Dudley also provide full insurance to the students.
Karate classes at Dudley have certified physical trainers to train the students. The physical trainer instructs the students about the diet regimen, weight loss and other key aspects of karate learning.
The Karate classes at Dudley are open for children from four years to adult. Special care is taken for the safety of children below six years. Even children and adults with special needs can join Karate classes at Dudley.
Many students of The Dudley Karate classes have represented F.E.K.O (Federation England Karate Organization)
The expertise and state of the art infrastructure at the Dudley Karate classes will set you up for success in learning Karate. But to maximize your learning in the karate classes following tips can help you: To reap maximum benefit from your Karate classes at Dudley attend them regularly. Making excuses to bunk karate classes because of tiredness or other reasons can severely mar your learning.
Attend your Karate classes with a free mind. Do not carry any stress or worry into your class. Avoiding any external distraction can help you to concentrate better on honing your Karate skills.
Learn in the Karate classes with a right attitude. You are the one responsible for your own progress. Be a team player. Help other students in the karate class by offering feedback and support.
Be ready and open for criticism and constructive feedback from the Karate class instructor or at times even your colleagues. Consider feedbacks and criticisms as an opportunity to improve. You can develop your karate skills the best by working on the feedback.
Every student is different. Do not compare yourself with others in the Karate class. There will always be students who are faster and better than you but your goal should be to perform better than yourself every time.
Practice makes a man perfect. Keep practicing the techniques and moves learnt in each Karate class.
Keep asking for instructor feedback on your performance in each Karate class. If you are a Karate enthusiast and want to pursue Karate as a hobby or as a profession taking Karate classes is the first step in that direction . However, Karate classes are only a small step in mastering the art of karate. It demands lot of dedication, discipline and hard work to excel in the Karate.
Karate Katas Why is Kanazawa sensei putting Tai Chi Chuan into SKIF Shotokan Karate katas? Is it a bad thing?
Is it to learn and understand techniques better? For health? Because he can? Does it take anything away and water it down?
shotokan karate is both hard and soft. as well as relaxed and tense. the most efficient way to have power is to strike when relaxed, but many shotokan instructors are not relaxed they are always tense and ridged.
the yang style of tai chi is soft and slow moving, from many instructors this is a good complement to shotokan as it is an element that many instructors are missing.
kanazawa sensei isnt adding this to shotokan he is teaching as a separate style as it is meant to be. many of the instructors enjoy taking his tai chi class.
i hosted several seminar over the years and when i hosted one with a friend of my teaching tai chi, i didn't invite many of my karate friends at the time since i though they wouldn't come anyway. after the seminar i had several of them contacting me as to why i didn't invite them, as they would have love to have taken a tai chi class. this wasnt only limited to my shotokan friends, but goju ryu, shito ryu, kyokushi, seito ryu and so on.
This excellent work, with more than 800 photos for ease of use, is designed to help students get the most out of the study and training of the five essential Pi Nan kata. Tomiyama Sensei, one of the leading Shito Ryu instructors in the world, not only demonstrates the katas, advising on performance and underlying principles, but also brings together sets of "bunkai" (applications) to aid understanding of the content. It is through the practice of Pi Nan katas and the many and varied applications that practitioners at all levels get a solid foundation for a meaningful study of the art of Karate. This comprehensive work is an indispensable tool for students and teachers alike.
Explores various movements that are part of Japanese martial arts, looking at their place in Japanese society, explaining how mastering these movements can deepen the spiritual aspect of one's martial arts experience and including accounts of many masters
This excellent work, with more than 800 photos for ease of use, is designed to help students get the most out of the study and training of the five essential Pi Nan kata. Tomiyama Sensei, one of the leading Shito Ryu instructors in the world, not only demonstrates the katas, advising on performance and underlying principles, but also brings together sets of bunkai (applications) to aid understanding of the content. It is through the practice of Pi Nan katas and the many and varied applications that practitioners at all levels get a solid foundation for a meaningful study of the art of Karate. This comprehensive work is an indispensable tool for students and teachers alike. Author: Tomiyama, Keiji Subtitle: Pinan Katas in Depth Publication Date: 2006/10/31 Number of Pages: 200 Binding Type: Paperback Language: English Depth: 0.50 Width: 7.50 Height: 9.25
Explores various movements that are part of Japanese martial arts, looking at their place in Japanese society, explaining how mastering these movements can deepen the spiritual aspect of one`s martial arts experience and including accounts of many masters` relationships with the katas. Original.
The grandmaster of Enshin Karate describes Sabaki's characteristic circular motions and blind spot positioning while demonstrating punches, kicks, blocks, counters, and katas
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Karate Kata - Part III of III
Overview: Aside from the dojo precepts, kata is traditionally Karate-do's primary tool for personal development. It is the textbook of Karate-do that is to be learned, understood, and applied. It is the tool by which Karate-do demonstrates fighting principles, but also creates unity in one's body, mind, and soul.
What may seem unnatural motions become second nature with training and practice. Kata assists in drilling good habits, and replacing bad ones. Once the techniques have been absorbed, patterns, principles, and body mechanics may be understood. The 'art' of 'martial art' is understanding these underlying ideas, that guide techniques and give them meaning. A technique is not just a strike or block, but also the factors necessary for those to work (timing, movement, and so forth). By practicing kata, and drilling 'bunkai', you will learn to apply principles with no extra 'clutter'.
The fighting principles, when well applied, will work in many situations. Awareness and defensive principles help avoid, assess, or diffuse encounters. The search for unity means we should use lethal force as a last resort. The key is to move last, but hit first. In this way, there is no first strike in karate, but we meet force with a passive counter. Look for new ways to interpret kata - many secrets may be found...or created.
Mentally, kata teaches focus, and attention to all angles. One must cut through disclarity of mind to understand kata, and with this a growing process takes place. You will find bunkai where you did not before, as you imagine the problems the kata creators faced. This problem solving that kata teaches is invaluable. It balances the mind and grounds it to a reality that is still unpredictable, yet enriched by clearer understanding.
Physically, kata enforces proper use of body structure. It also strengthens the muscles through natural body weight exercises. Practiced vigorously, kata improves cardiovascular efficiency. Kata is therapeutic and empowering.
Spiritually, kata provides a path of self awareness. In practicing or even creating new kata, one builds resolve. In aiming for mastery, one builds patience. In either, one has to continually search in and outside of themselves, that one may learn how to apply the truths contained within kata.
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Karate Katas What are the katas practised in Kyokushin Karate?
I cannot find a full list
then you havent looked very hard,
try google, you can find them all in 30 secs
try buying a book on kyokushin, there are several books that contain lists of all there kata.
This excellent work, with more than 800 photos for ease of use, is designed to help students get the most out of the study and training of the five essential Pi Nan kata. Tomiyama Sensei, one of the leading Shito Ryu instructors in the world, not only demonstrates the katas, advising on performance and underlying principles, but also brings together sets of "bunkai" (applications) to aid understanding of the content. It is through the practice of Pi Nan katas and the many and varied applications that practitioners at all levels get a solid foundation for a meaningful study of the art of Karate. This comprehensive work is an indispensable tool for students and teachers alike.
Explores various movements that are part of Japanese martial arts, looking at their place in Japanese society, explaining how mastering these movements can deepen the spiritual aspect of one's martial arts experience and including accounts of many masters
This excellent work, with more than 800 photos for ease of use, is designed to help students get the most out of the study and training of the five essential Pi Nan kata. Tomiyama Sensei, one of the leading Shito Ryu instructors in the world, not only demonstrates the katas, advising on performance and underlying principles, but also brings together sets of bunkai (applications) to aid understanding of the content. It is through the practice of Pi Nan katas and the many and varied applications that practitioners at all levels get a solid foundation for a meaningful study of the art of Karate. This comprehensive work is an indispensable tool for students and teachers alike. Author: Tomiyama, Keiji Subtitle: Pinan Katas in Depth Publication Date: 2006/10/31 Number of Pages: 200 Binding Type: Paperback Language: English Depth: 0.50 Width: 7.50 Height: 9.25
Explores various movements that are part of Japanese martial arts, looking at their place in Japanese society, explaining how mastering these movements can deepen the spiritual aspect of one`s martial arts experience and including accounts of many masters` relationships with the katas. Original.
The grandmaster of Enshin Karate describes Sabaki's characteristic circular motions and blind spot positioning while demonstrating punches, kicks, blocks, counters, and katas
